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Posted by: Adrian Setterfield on 04/12/12 04:41 PM
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Adrian Setterfield

ALAN...YOUR ABILITY TO RANT AND RAVE ABOUT something you have no clue about, i.e. Art...is being laid bare for all to see. RUBBISH-TRASH-GARBAGE; 

...That's the flavour of your f-art!

 
Posted by: Jin Hyok Hwang on 04/12/12 04:57 PM
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Jin Hyok Hwang

Alan,

Yes, I see your point.  I am finding out that the business of ART is about money.  Art sold is more of a luxury of the buyer.  Artist produce something that basically has no practical use.  It's collected and traded as an investment like the stock or commodity exchange.  I understand that world.  I do not hate it or have any angar and resentment.  Money is no good to the dead, just the living.

I am tired of living.  I wake up, I go to sleep, I wake up, I go to sleep.  Sometimes I do things that entertain my time, like going to social functions, meeting with friends, spending time with loved ones.  Even then it can only entertain me for so long.  Art is now the only thing I have to leave behind.  Living is art, so I am the art.  What or how I manifest art is my gift to this world.

I really don't care about such things that you have stated.  Art is the only thing that is keeping me alive, until my body ceases to function.  I am amazed as an artist, that we can take something so worthless, so ordinary, so available to all and transform it to hope, desire, and sorrow.  Making it priceless for those who appreciate its understanding.

Sincerely,

Jin Hwang

 
Posted by: Adrian Setterfield on 04/12/12 07:20 PM
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Real Art is useless. And it takes a certain sensitivity to see that too. That is why an open bed installation is heralded as fine art. Furthermore...it is a creative concept but not a creative design.

Usefullness in art is attributed to design. One might say that the use of art is to provoke beauty or experience of some sort, but all experience whatever it may be, is registered in the brain and is a product of electrical impulses. This means that the world 'out there' is not the cause of ones experience.

The transformation that you speak about, Jin, is not a result of the art piece ..it is the result of self recognition....of recognizing that which is always already present and takes the form of every object and space...all in the same moment.

And perhaps...most probably...that is why Art sustains you. You have the sensitivity to see yourself. Art. This is our vital force.

 
Posted by: Jin Hyok Hwang on 04/12/12 08:00 PM
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Jin Hyok Hwang

Adrian,

I understand you, finally.  Thanks for connecting with me.

 
Posted by: Adrian Setterfield on 04/12/12 08:45 PM
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Adrian Setterfield

likewise

 
Posted by: Adrian Setterfield on 04/13/12 11:34 AM
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Adrian Setterfield

Spot on, Murat.......One with sensitivity to Art can use any medium to convey Art. So the computer is also such a medium. You and Jin and Alan have misunderstood my words. You all three 'thought' I was saying computer art is not a medium. IT IS a medium. 

As a matter of fact I would go further to say that all technology is the physical manifestation of thought. And it is bloody amazing...right down to how the lates military technology is used to control and manufacture your weather in Turkey, in England, in the USA , China, Russia ans Europe. 

In the hands of FEAR, technology is fear based...in the hands of LOVE, it is ART.

 
Posted by: Adrian Setterfield on 04/13/12 12:01 PM
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Adrian Setterfield

Perfect balance prevails...one can also see it in operation in the mind manifest as Armstring and Adrian (for example). Both the same one. Thinking that they are a seperate individual who is doing their life. It's all a game...a mind game.

In the hands of an Artist, computers do work wonders. But without the Artist, they are nothing. So the artist is Reality itself. Self realized. Not wanked off with intellectual masterbation. But apperceptively known.

 
Posted by: Adrian Setterfield on 04/13/12 03:07 PM
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Adrian Setterfield

Alan...a tad jealous old boy?

 
Posted by: Adrian Setterfield on 04/13/12 03:41 PM
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Adrian Setterfield

RACIST

 
Posted by: Adrian Setterfield on 04/14/12 05:54 PM
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I think you misunderstood the term I gave about mental masturbation. As you might know, masturbation is physically satisfying to the one having the 'direct' experience of it. But it is an experience that involves self stimulation usually with a fantasy. So I used it like this as a pointer in order to say that..... intellectual understanding is unable to satisfy the need for direct physical experience. Like...you can read about fire or see a picture of it but that fire acnot burn you. In the same way, one can masterbate on a fantasy idea but it is not the same as the real deal.

This why I say that the artist produces art when she/he apperceives (knows without knowing...knows without intellect only) Reality. This is when the art speaks so that it can be heard...otherwise it has only a faint whisper to it. It is neither better or not for art to speak with a voice from the other side (so to speak).

And to hear the Art speak requires a certain sensability. For an example many people can hear the art of Mozart because his art speaks the voice from the other side. But someone like Alan Armstrings digital girlie overlays, lack the voice that makes art speak the recognizable and unmistaken sound of Reality. Even if they are still Reality itself appearing as girlie butts.

 

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