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Posted by: John Dunn on 08/27/12 07:13 PM
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John Dunn

http://www.artslant.com/ew/works/show/612227-fog

what do reader artists think?

 
Posted by: murat danis on 08/28/12 08:50 AM
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murat danis

POUL KLEE; " CONTEMPORARy CONCEPT "  ; T H E O R y; - an application i n    abstract.  a r t.-


"____4-for é WorD  .. "

"WALKiNG; i n through; t h e ART-WORK;"   (with the  " transparent STEP traces "  o f the Computers; o n l y;  t  o find  OUT;  -or see-  ; that; " if the c r e a t o r  of this ART-WORK; h a s ; "WALKED; i n t h r o u g h ; ART; -or that artwork- ;  as a pioneer " MOON WALKER "  ,on that L a n d  ,,o f;  A R T ' s..(U can describe some thing or a land scape, b u t, did U b e; there;  4 a WALK..)  (Ican w e a r; " MOON CLOTHEs &SHOEs,              -if I can b e ; in ART; i n M E; & in  t h e;  COMPUTER-         that are transparent to the l a n d,  to find out,  " the MAN; o n the MOON;" .. " t h e  M E N "; I shall c a l l ; it ,there.


take it serious, " THE READing " ;  S  O,

i  f  I      r e a d;      that  W O R K;   o f,

Alexander Konovalov'   s

 

I shall READ; this WORK;  by miror i m a g e s  o f the,  Computer program..

...this is an essay, o n, READing i t..(ONLY 1 ESSAY..)

...ABSTRACTion;         ; h a s   a   " natural " -original STORY-   b e f o r e..    ABSTRACTiOn    

  ;t h e n   ;  i t     has been;  "  broken; i n t o  p i e c e s   "   ..- t o r n  into pieces-..      t  o   OPEN; a SPACE;  " i  n  t h  r o u g h " ;  t h e;  TRADiTional  S T O R Y .. ( S O;  it is possible  w  h  e  n  STORY is  ; A  b  s  t r  a  c t e d.  (the original classic story;  i s  abstracted..)


L E T ' S;  " i N S T A L L "   a;  " MODEL S T O R Y "  ; i n that;

(if installation i n  ART;     i s UNiversaL..)


MY STORY;   " M O D EL "  ;  to this ABSTRACTiON;  i s

-theN   A  M  E; of the story- :

"  THE REVERSiDE;  " district "; in the C i t y.."  ..


  

 

  

 

 

 

  

 

  

S O; M A N;  has Abstracted;    (as an Abstract-aRT W o r k)..

..and t h e n; W E;  can  LOOK4 ;& f i n d,  " the M E N ";  i n the ; abstractARtWORK..


SO  " d i d ";  PAUL KLEE;  has written a BOOK about; " CONTEMPORARy ART ;CONCEPT THEORY " ..(something like that was the tittle,I guess..)

PouL KLEE; paintings,  a r  e;  L i k e;  the  last step; Painting A b o v e..

Poul Klee;  recommanded; " t h a t;  S T E P "   ; has had to b e;  WORKED;    - AT O N C E-      ; a s an ART-WORK..(  b u  t;    h e  has passed; these steps  A B O V E;..  b u t; the TRUE-W A Y;  -geniune PATH-  i s;


... " first TRUELY ABSTRACT; i t   - TOTALLy i n t o   TORN p i e c e s;-     t h e n,  

F i n d  O U T;    "   the M E N   " ;    that  has " L E A K E D "     -and  has been  installed i n  the  art medium-       ;   while ;  this; TORNiNG  apart;( & d e l u t e d, ; extracted, crunch e d, grind e d,) Abstraction process     ;    -w  h  i l  e;   artist;         w a s  ABSTRACTing-      . ( in fact; a r t i s t  extracts himself; and then it  c a n  appear i n the  a r t M E D i U M;    a s     " the M E N "   ;if worked reverse, by a computer' s inert JOB.. ..)   (ARTist ABSTRACTs; b u t;  while this process, h e has  s o u l  has  LEAK e d ; i n t o;  yhe   ART;  r i v e r  ..a.nd there appears;     "the M  e  n "   ; i n the ART;  M E D i A.. -from this l e a k e d- ..spontaneously.      .i f  WORKED    ; r e v e r s e;     -by a computer-.. so computer is a  inert catalyst; here; that d o e s not chance; any thing     -only with; copy-cut paste-turn-       ; what has been o c c u r e d;    spontaneously     -in artist' s hands-           i n  the    a r t ; m e d i u m..  )

...and " the "  Computer i s; capable,  o  f,    D O ing ;  this; r e v e r se    action, i n the art w o  r k... S O; D O ;   M A K E; these  "  STEPs using  a COMPUTER ";..There are artists telling; that  THEY M A K E; all these STEPs; i n their M i N D s..They exist as an artist because they used their brains as computers, b u t; these days;  w e have computers;  and acting like a computer, i s not making ART.a n y  m o r e.

....first;  TRUELy;  & TOTALLy,  " make U' r P U R E AbstractiON "  ; -a s  a  true Worker-..  t h e n;  COMPUTER; h a s to  M AK E;  t h e  R E S T..(and we can see the STEPs; that ART i s WALKing..) (do not put U' r selves; in the p l a c e ; o f ;  computers.b u t use computers  w h e n  T h i n k i n g;  A R T; only..) (when computers TAKE; their PLACE; i  n ART M a k i n g; ;  a  r  t;  & atists    ; will   B E;  M O R E;  F R E E.and with the TRUE STEPs o f  M a k i n g, genuine a r t..i n the future..)..USE COMPUTERS; B U T DO NOT BECOME A COMPUTER  (U' r Brain become ); WHEN  M A K i N G;  A R T..b e c a u s e; i f U ' r brain has transFormed to a computer then; this " corrapted alien; "  can b e ; recognised a s   a ; fantastic   ; a r t  creation.. but computr work l e t us s e e ; all and every STEP; o f  ART..(then a r t ; can  b e  ;  true ,  .and genuine art creations can b e recognizaable.


SO; this i s   a TRUE; a b s t r a c t,  W O R K;  Alexander Konovalov'   S..

Poul KLEE;  " to the CONTEMPORARy;   PASSAGE;  from A B S T R A C T iO N;"   ;     -THEORy i n CONCEPTUAL METHOD-   ;            ; approves T h i s;  I     ;G  U  ESS..


P.S.  " the M E N "  ; o c c u r e d;  i n,

" CONTEMPORARY ;K L E E CONCEPT "  ; a r t; 

;  " the MEN "  PORTRATEs..  :

     

     

   

   


-" CONTEMPORARized "; i n The Computer.. -    " ; Abstracted images.."


 
Posted by: John Dunn on 08/28/12 01:41 PM
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John Dunn

well that is an interesting approach...to take Paul Klee further through embracing technological advancement and reincorporate it into art.

 
Posted by: John Dunn on 08/28/12 07:50 PM
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John Dunn

Murat, you might find this interesting...

http://www.adrianscicluna.com/adrianscicluna.com/painting.html

 
Posted by: murat danis on 08/28/12 08:49 PM
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murat danis

PAiNT  STRETCH i n g;   " versus "  ;digital equal VAKUM window ; " the     "  piX e l i n g.. "  ..


John,

I think;      partial  " stretching  "     the ;    original  PAiNT i n g,    -till there o c c u r e s;  a  figure;-    ; is  more creative ,  and goes with the conscious;  -better for the artisttic aesthe tics-   .

.u p in the KLEE L i k e,  work; there are pixels; because; resolution; of the source photo of Konovalov' s; w a s  low..

..oil  paint   -especially-    i s; an    elastic and flexable ; d o u g h;     and if Artist' s SOUL; -or BODy- has  b e en  installed  ; into i t;  ; .W h e n   s t r e c tc h e d;     t h e y;  become visible ;    but; as they were in an  " other world "  -like in a dream-  their material i s  an    "  under-matter  "    ;   -non atomic-    ; one..      SO paint, has to be stretched;     with a computer; e d i t..   (and paint has to b e Poured on a canvas; so  when  your spatula Moves in the paint  colours can s w i m ; in the PAiNT;  to  make stretchable l i n e s  & , surfaces..   - three dimensionally- ..

..these l i n e s; and surFACEs can , achieve;       FACEs     or F i g u r e s;      when stretched;      with the conscioUS  -of pure RATiO use in computer programs-     .. i n the computer' s      ; " o t h e r  under   -space."

I think..


I should put paintings; 4 eXample; a s I  DO; al way s..  and a T i t l e..      to this writing..


..this i s one of my    ; O R i G i N A L   painting' s;     detail..

  

 


    


..SO  " SPATULA "  ; c a n;  " SPRAY ";  " STRETCH"  ; and (    {V} collect, save, accumulate, amass, gather, keep back, lay aside, lay by, put aside, put away, put by, roll up, salt, set apart, set by, set aside, treasure up )  t h e P A i N T.. (as above in the original paint work..)

....T h i s  means; all these ACTings; has b e g u n;  simultaneously, in the ; PainT- w o r k; o f  ART.w i t h the HAND;&ARM; (so spatula installs U' r BODy into the art-work..) and "SPATULA" ..t  h  e  n;  they can  GO ON; with the  -spatula like inert acting- computer programs..  1-  with the paint;& spatula& U' r hand; U are socialist laboror, 4 the sake of the OBJECT; ..2- with the computer; U are Capitalist with U' r RATiO; & ConscioUS ; 4  thePUBLic.


ALPHABETH L E T T E R; w i t h ;        BOTH; 2 WAYs.   (SO A PAiNTiNG; b e g i n s  with a WRiTiNG; first..)

I think; I   m a k e;  m y;   "  digitalizatiON s   "   ;  i n  m y;  w r i t i n g s..(4 every l e t t e r  of Alphabeth; i s   a  " P i X e l "; as w e l l.  .. a n  Alphabeth  l e t t e  r;  work in two ways.both; express a feeling; and ;o p e n an  "   e m p t y   "      ; " digital square window; PiXEL i n g ";       to this   e X p r e s s e d;  DEED..

E M P T Y;  " SPACE " ; i n THROUGH;  A R T- W O R K..:

...so digital computer is a  digitalizor;  " there is an    e m p t y  H O L E;    -passing inthrough-    ;  in the computer " ; too.   -Reverse and parallel thinking-,    ART WORK; has to  H A V E;   t h i s; " EMPTY; P A S S A G E;  "  i n   i t;  SO  W E; can " instaLL -or locate- "  ; computer WORK; (stretching, spraying, seting aside;    -a s copy paste cut turn miror image-)  i  n   A R T.    O T H E R;  w i s e;  " " transFormed Human "  ; (as is in the art area Today..too..), w i l l  b e installed; i n the work;as a computer -being;   &   as i f ;   " computerized Human i s ;     " the ART  "..   (b u t  N O W; computer has been pulled o u t;  f r o m  Human Brain & p u t; outside;  the H U M A N..i t has to pass through ART; L i k e  a " SPATULA "   ; D O E S;  i n  through;       t h e  PAiNT..)

I think;  t h i s  " SPRAYing " ; i s to F i l l   i n;  the  " EMPTy  E D;  SPACE; P i X E L s.. "  ..  or;

TO; E M P T Y;  and      TORN  a  P  a  r  t;      and  ERASE;          w h a t; has BEEN;  the     "    m u l t i UNiTED  " ..ONE s ..i n the World..


 
Posted by: John Dunn on 08/29/12 06:54 PM
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John Dunn

 you write without conclusion...I find that interesting,,,dammit I dont hve any bloody words to describe about this!!

 
Posted by: murat danis on 08/30/12 06:29 AM
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murat danis

" é  4-N O W  ";s t r e t c h..   ...i n the  F i E L d; -court-   o  f,   " the Uncertainty  PRiNCiPLE "  ...I  H O P E.


..when I think I am     n e a r     a   "  conclussioON " ; I    magnify  ; " the L A T T E R s.."


....t h e n, I have to tell, s o m e t h i n g..(4 I am the o n e,who m a k e ; i t..)

..it is " OPEN S Y S T E M " ;   -open continuoUS, s y s t e m-  ..(in chemicial engineering,they call i t SO..) S O; art can b e; designed a s an open system, a c t.Conditions r e a c h e d, stay the s a m e; in every point; as t i m e, goes by..and brain learns thissytem;  t h e n , l e a r n e  d; will COME; to the s u r f a c e;   somehow, somewhere, sometime, in some shape; a n d; that takes t i m e;  a s we call i t art o c c u r e s;  b  y  it' s own  w a y.It TAKEs t i m e; 4 a TRUE; ART i s t..

S O, I find this effect very natural.".The T h i n g; "    i s.. " eXpress the thing in U;  " N O W " ;    "      ;what ever i t is, -what Ucan K NOW; 4-N O W..-       because, then an other principle o f science WORK; Werner heisenberg' s " t h e Uncertainty principle " ..Problem i n the ART W o r l d, i s, they think, they can KNOW; every thing..not only nature in the world, n a t u  r e  o f  art; r e l y   o n  ; " the uncertainty principle ", I guess.    

m y  writing style establishes, s o m e uncertainties,    - I h o p e; SO;- ; t h e n,  process leasts     -take some time-,  ( this is the t i m e; I give to the SYSTEM; to M A K E ; i t ;  " O P E N "  -& uncertain-  ; because I give this t i m e, reader has to give it to his/her b r a i n, )    to comprehend , b u t every m i n d, can catch ; " an other kind of fish; i n it' s WATERs.."  w h i l e  overcoming this  ; uncertainty..  

I  think.. 4 -NOW. ..

so conclussions will come to every other individual afterwards, as every  m i n d;h a v e;      other o w n- process s;     on going..4-NOW.

..immediate -sudden- expressions are very TRUTHfull; and   honest;    I t h i n k. (to be able to b e ; i n OUTSiDE.)

.." bloody   W O R D s"      i s, interesting..I think a r t has   b e e n     ; installed i n t o, m y;   BLOOD..  NO -C U R E.  i t is, i n m e.SO, I have to throw i t O U T  ; A  W A Y;   too, F A R   ; ahead ; ..      -even   to b  e  ;    u  n   t  h  i n k  able  ,   &  4- getable..-


p.s.

4-the  "blood"  of the; F r e n c    h..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-eTAkMC2nw&list=FLoclApcUHJH_NyOZI_kqZ8Q&index=56&feature=plpp_video


 
Posted by: John Dunn on 08/30/12 01:13 PM
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John Dunn

http://www.artslant.com/ny/works/show/579407

 
Posted by: John Dunn on 08/30/12 01:14 PM
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John Dunn

great Graffiti Murat !!

 
Posted by: murat danis on 08/30/12 02:19 PM
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murat danis

1.....lines cominG;    i n through;    the c o l o r s;  -paint-  (from WRiTTEN l e t t er s..)

2......while paint   -&color s-  a r e;  freed by   ; the strong feelings..

__" 2 "; BOTH;_   ;a  r e;  n e e d e d..in theART..


http://www.artslant.com/ny/works/show/579407

...is this great graffiti..

...I think expression   of the feelings     in the acts o f,  colors;  i s not enough   ; 4 t h e ART..m y opinion, is  :

...the   human face; or Body of an object has to appear (occur) i n the color, too..lines has to come from in t h r o u g h the colors..(some first put lines than paint inbetween..s o m e, let colors i n   f r e e action; b u t; t h e n  i f  ; there d o e s  not c o m e;  t h e lines; inthrough the paint and colors.; then these colors; has no RATiO...ONE; has to write, first,     then l i n e s; can come    from inthrough   the paint -from the letters  written by the painter, b e f o r e..-   ,,one thing more, l i n e s  &shapes  ; has to be effected, b y the nature of the  c o l o r s.  and reverse.)

I think; this ONE; i s  f i n e  .to  m  e.    (my opinion,    of course; ...)

                                                                                                                                                                

better     ;image;  " p a r t "..  

p.s.     ...note:

  (4, I need, a story,and  imaginable  figures)  ..

of course, t h e s e,  a r e;   valid   4      ;   -as a help to my sayings; -  , & I am not a consultant;   -expert-   o n criticing ..

..


SO MY CONCLUSiON s    ; H E R E;  are  :

1 -  L i n e s  to a PAiNTiNG;  h a s to  C O M E;  from written  L E T T E R s; of the painTer.  (intrough; t h e  paint; into a painting..

2-  nature o f  colors   ;  -in a painting-  has to b e ; in an  " interactive "  relation ; -and reaction-;  w i t h;   the L i n e s  ;    - that are occuring from " letters from writings "  ; and shaping object s;in  as n e w forms..-       (this means  a    l e t t e r    can change a color;    -&flow of the color- or a color can change a line occuring to h a v e  a  shape, in the painting..  i n t e r a c t i v e l y.) 


 

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